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	<title>Comments for Jack Osborne — Freelance Web Designer Glasgow</title>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Tooltips with the Pseudo Element by Improving CSS tooltips &#8212; CSS Wizardry&#8212;CSS, Web Standards, Typography, and Grids by Harry Roberts</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css-tooltips-with-the-pseudo-element/comment-page-1/#comment-1094</link>
		<dc:creator>Improving CSS tooltips &#8212; CSS Wizardry&#8212;CSS, Web Standards, Typography, and Grids by Harry Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] slightly&#8230; Jack Osborne, whom I have followed on Twitter for a while now, posted some time ago a tooltip tutorial whereby you utilise the :after CSS pseudo-element and the attr() function to populate it. His [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] slightly&#8230; Jack Osborne, whom I have followed on Twitter for a while now, posted some time ago a tooltip tutorial whereby you utilise the :after CSS pseudo-element and the attr() function to populate it. His [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS3 Gradients by Marc</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css3-gradients/comment-page-1/#comment-1091</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jack,

You&#039;ve noted that using CSS gradients means fewer HTTP requests, but isn&#039;t that only the case if you use them &lt;em&gt;instead&lt;/em&gt; of images?

For example, in your block of CSS you have a fallback image, gradient.png - won&#039;t all browsers still load this file regardless of whether they support CSS gradients or not, in which case those that do just won&#039;t use it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jack,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve noted that using CSS gradients means fewer HTTP requests, but isn&#8217;t that only the case if you use them <em>instead</em> of images?</p>
<p>For example, in your block of CSS you have a fallback image, gradient.png &#8211; won&#8217;t all browsers still load this file regardless of whether they support CSS gradients or not, in which case those that do just won&#8217;t use it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Content Property by Ryan</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css-content-property/comment-page-1/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Jack - appreciate this. 

Thanks for all your work, only just discovered the blog but looks like it&#039;ll be  a great resource :)

Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Jack &#8211; appreciate this. </p>
<p>Thanks for all your work, only just discovered the blog but looks like it&#8217;ll be  a great resource <img src='http://jackosborne.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Tooltips with the Pseudo Element by Nicolas Gallagher</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css-tooltips-with-the-pseudo-element/comment-page-1/#comment-995</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see people experimenting with pseudo-elements. In my opinion, frequency decoder&#039;s approach is preferable as it gets rid of the repeat text and he&#039;s also ensured that the tooltip is visible to keyboard users.

Placing text in the title attribute is no guarantee that it will be read by screen-readers either. However, Filament Group&#039;s research indicates that some screen-readers do actually read CSS generated content: http://filamentgroup.com/lab/dingbat_webfonts_accessibility_issues/.

The article about pseudo-elements on CSS Tricks was influenced by an article I wrote which, if you haven&#039;t read it, I hope might give you some more ideas for experiments using pseudo-elements - http://j.mp/d6UMOd. Please ping me on twitter if you publish any more pseudo-element stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see people experimenting with pseudo-elements. In my opinion, frequency decoder&#8217;s approach is preferable as it gets rid of the repeat text and he&#8217;s also ensured that the tooltip is visible to keyboard users.</p>
<p>Placing text in the title attribute is no guarantee that it will be read by screen-readers either. However, Filament Group&#8217;s research indicates that some screen-readers do actually read CSS generated content: <a href="http://filamentgroup.com/lab/dingbat_webfonts_accessibility_issues/" rel="nofollow">http://filamentgroup.com/lab/dingbat_webfonts_accessibility_issues/</a>.</p>
<p>The article about pseudo-elements on CSS Tricks was influenced by an article I wrote which, if you haven&#8217;t read it, I hope might give you some more ideas for experiments using pseudo-elements &#8211; <a href="http://j.mp/d6UMOd" rel="nofollow">http://j.mp/d6UMOd</a>. Please ping me on twitter if you publish any more pseudo-element stuff!</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Tooltips with the Pseudo Element by Jay Searra</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css-tooltips-with-the-pseudo-element/comment-page-1/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Searra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a great idea, but there are two problems.

One is the double tooltip on browsers that can show it.
The other is Internet Explorer 7, where your users will see something that looks broken, unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a great idea, but there are two problems.</p>
<p>One is the double tooltip on browsers that can show it.<br />
The other is Internet Explorer 7, where your users will see something that looks broken, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Tooltips with the Pseudo Element by Jack Osborne</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css-tooltips-with-the-pseudo-element/comment-page-1/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the comments, some decent suggestions in here.

@frequency decoder - I was actually reading about the data-attribute this weekend, definately looks like the most viable alternative to overcoming the tooltip and alt text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the comments, some decent suggestions in here.</p>
<p>@frequency decoder &#8211; I was actually reading about the data-attribute this weekend, definately looks like the most viable alternative to overcoming the tooltip and alt text.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Tooltips with the Pseudo Element by frequency decoder</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css-tooltips-with-the-pseudo-element/comment-page-1/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>frequency decoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jack,

There&#039;s no way to stop the browser&#039;s default tooltip from appearing I&#039;m afraid (without resorting to JS but this removes all notion of accessibility). 

I toyed with using a custom data- attribute to hold the tooltip text but again, this just makes the tooltips 100% un-accessible (as screen readers are not supposed to read generated content) if the title attribute isn&#039;t added to the markup.

Quick custom data- attribute demo: http://www.frequency-decoder.com/demo/css-tooltips/

...and inevitable blah, blah: http://www.frequency-decoder.com/2010/06/21/css-tooltips-using-generated-content-and-html5-data-attributes/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jack,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way to stop the browser&#8217;s default tooltip from appearing I&#8217;m afraid (without resorting to JS but this removes all notion of accessibility). </p>
<p>I toyed with using a custom data- attribute to hold the tooltip text but again, this just makes the tooltips 100% un-accessible (as screen readers are not supposed to read generated content) if the title attribute isn&#8217;t added to the markup.</p>
<p>Quick custom data- attribute demo: <a href="http://www.frequency-decoder.com/demo/css-tooltips/" rel="nofollow">http://www.frequency-decoder.com/demo/css-tooltips/</a></p>
<p>&#8230;and inevitable blah, blah: <a href="http://www.frequency-decoder.com/2010/06/21/css-tooltips-using-generated-content-and-html5-data-attributes/" rel="nofollow">http://www.frequency-decoder.com/2010/06/21/css-tooltips-using-generated-content-and-html5-data-attributes/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Tooltips with the Pseudo Element by Richard Tape</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css-tooltips-with-the-pseudo-element/comment-page-1/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Tape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jack,

Another excellent example. I&#039;ve been doing this for a little while on various projects. Removing the &#039;double&#039; tooltip isn&#039;t natively possible as it&#039;s a browser function that can&#039;t be changed, from what I understand. (much smarter men than me with beards have informed me so)

However, you can (if you wanted to) use a non-valid and totally-made-up attribute for this purpose - i.e. 

&lt;code&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;somewhere.html&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Awful hack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/code&gt;

and then alter the CSS to:

&lt;code&gt;content: attr(tip);&lt;/code&gt;

This is pretty bloody awful for accessibility, completely invalid and overall makes me feel dirty, so I don&#039;t use it. However, some people may find it useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jack,</p>
<p>Another excellent example. I&#8217;ve been doing this for a little while on various projects. Removing the &#8216;double&#8217; tooltip isn&#8217;t natively possible as it&#8217;s a browser function that can&#8217;t be changed, from what I understand. (much smarter men than me with beards have informed me so)</p>
<p>However, you can (if you wanted to) use a non-valid and totally-made-up attribute for this purpose &#8211; i.e. </p>
<p><code><a href="somewhere.html" title="" rel="nofollow">Awful hack</a></code></p>
<p>and then alter the CSS to:</p>
<p><code>content: attr(tip);</code></p>
<p>This is pretty bloody awful for accessibility, completely invalid and overall makes me feel dirty, so I don&#8217;t use it. However, some people may find it useful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Tooltips with the Pseudo Element by Pim Derks</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css-tooltips-with-the-pseudo-element/comment-page-1/#comment-989</link>
		<dc:creator>Pim Derks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article,  I actually made something like this myself last month.  With some jQuery I clear the title-attribute on hover, so the same content won&#039;t appear twice. Ofcourse, this only works when people have JS enabled. After the hover I put the title-attribute back in, using jQuery&#039;s .data function.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article,  I actually made something like this myself last month.  With some jQuery I clear the title-attribute on hover, so the same content won&#8217;t appear twice. Ofcourse, this only works when people have JS enabled. After the hover I put the title-attribute back in, using jQuery&#8217;s .data function.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Tooltips with the Pseudo Element by Sunny Singh</title>
		<link>http://jackosborne.co.uk/articles/css-tooltips-with-the-pseudo-element/comment-page-1/#comment-988</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice idea but unless CSS will give you a way to prevent the browser from the displaying the default tooltip, this isn&#039;t plausible. JavaScript can&#039;t really fix that bug because removing the title attribute will break your CSS tooltips.

I think JavaScript tooltips are fine for now. Sure it&#039;s style but it&#039;s also interactivity which is fine for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice idea but unless CSS will give you a way to prevent the browser from the displaying the default tooltip, this isn&#8217;t plausible. JavaScript can&#8217;t really fix that bug because removing the title attribute will break your CSS tooltips.</p>
<p>I think JavaScript tooltips are fine for now. Sure it&#8217;s style but it&#8217;s also interactivity which is fine for now.</p>
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